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Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 740 Location: Within ALL THAT IS
Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: THE FORUM COMMUNITY PRINCIPLES !!!
I LOVE YOU
G'day.
Auron has been generous in giving his time and effort into setting up this forum for everyone to freely utilise. We now have 141 registered members of the forum community and it is growing. With this in mind, it would be beneficial to have set in place principles that form a basis for the continuation of our growth as a forum community, that allow us, together, to create that which we all desire; a place of love, freedom and individuality.
I use the word principles, and not rules, because principles are flexible and can be utilised in all experiences, whereas rules are inflexible, and therefore easily broken, because that which does not bend, breaks.
So, with this in mind, I would like to offer everyone the opportunity to discuss this idea by opening with something that I read in the beginning of the book 'The Fifth Sacred Thing'.....
DECLARATION OF THE FOUR SACRED THINGS
The earth is a living, conscious being. In company with cultures of many different times and places, we name these things as sacred: air, fire, water and earth.
Whether we see them as the breath, energy, blood and body of the Mother, or as the blessed gifts of a Creator, or as symbols of the interconnected systems that sustain life, we know that nothing can live without them.
To call these things sacred is to say that they have a value beyond their usefulness for human ends, that they themselves become the standards by which our acts, our economics, our laws and our purposes must be judged. No one has the right to appropriate them or profit from them at the expense of others. Any government that fails to protect them forfeits its legitimacy.
All people, all living things, are part of the earth life, and so are sacred. No one of us stands higher or lower than any other. Only justice can assure balance: only ecological balance can sustain freedom. Only in freedom can that fifth sacred thing we call spirit flourish in its full diversity.
To honour the sacred is to create conditions in which nourishment, sustenance, habitat, knowledge, freedom and beauty can thrive. To honour the sacred is to make love possible.
To this we dedicate our curiosity, our will, our courage, our silences and our voices. To this we dedicate our lives.
To form our basis, 'The Forum Community Principles', I would love to hear from each and everyone here what it is that they think, ideas that they have read, proposals that they have, that will help us together grow into a community that is able to create, as a community, whilst maintaining our individuality. For with a solid foundation as a basis, we can build without losing the integrity of the community that we are building, and meet each and every experience confident that we are creating that which we all desire. It is also a declaration of what we are choosing to manifest, and as such, an affirmation of our desire to create together.
Please make your posts with this in mind so that we can all benefit from each and every individual perspective of this forum community that we are all a part of, thank you.
THANK YOU
With LOVE
WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS,
YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.
What is TRUTH ? . . . .THAT THE ONENESS IS ALL !!! What is JOY ? . . . . . .ALL THAT THE ONENESS IS !!! What is LOVE ? . . . . .THE ONENESS THAT IS ALL !!! What is LIFE ? . . . . . ALL THAT IS THE ONENESS !!! WHO AM I ? . . . . . . .THE ONENESS THAT ALL IS !!!
Excitement.
Excitement is the core nature of our beings.
In a world of a myriad of probabilities and choices we can use our innate judgment as a compass to choose the best.
How many times do we choose something because when think we must?
Or when our heart really aint in it? Or when we are afraid of the alternatives?
I say, if we must do something or of we are limited we should work through the limitations.
And transcend boundaries.
If it is no longer fun or exciting we shouldn’t do it.
Questions, will lead us to new perceptions.
Our nature is innocent and will fulfill itself spontaneously.
We learn form our mistakes, and they are corrective action.
Excitement carries with it, vast energy, responsibility, and beauty.
Excitement will lead us to the best of ourselves.
Pride.
Pride is recognizing your own value and uniqueness and recognizing our place in all that is.
We are taught to be humble and quiet and soft and weak.
But when we lose our excitement and fire we lose part of our native strength.
The divine doesn’t like to be shackled in buildings or senseless traditions.
It likes to be out in the open, conscious and exploring, and creating new wonders.
Arrogance is the opposame of humility.
Arrogance sees itself as better while others are lowly and inferior.
It is half understanding, that doesn’t see its own oneness, a form of self hatred and isolation.
Humility sees itself as modest and impartial. But why should a thing be humble when the one is in all?
It is another half understanding, and isolation.
Who are you not to be conscious, beautiful, free and alive? And proud.
Proud people are anchors of expression, and see their potential.
Knowledge.
We shall be open to all information and sift it in our minds and hearts.
And be open to the surprise of life, the nature of possibility.
All information is positive, and should be weighed in the scales of our minds.
What is useful is most practical. And knowledge is power.
We are each equal, and have the right to choose, and the right to exist.
Majority does not rule, if 51% of the people agree on a way of life,
They still have no right to enforce their way on the rest.
No one owns our lives, we are free sovereign people.
One thing that always struck me was how 'personal' people take things. I think it's important to have discussions about serious matters and some times the emotions run high and blunt words are exchanged. If we our creating a community that everyone wishes to benefit from, we have to keep in mind that everything is a learning experience. It's important to NOT take things personal and look objectively at the situation. Leaving your ego aside will help us get to our points in our discussions without holding any grudge against the other.
Joined: 24 Aug 2007 Posts: 740 Location: Within ALL THAT IS
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:16 am Post subject:
I LOVE YOU
G'day.
Thanks for joining in the discussion guys and expressing yourselves.
I was reminded of something and noticed it in Auron's signature, "Freedom with Responibility".
I believe that this is an awesome principle. It says to me that I have the freedom to express myself in any way that I choose to, yet I am responsible for what I am choosing. So, if someone said something in a post for example, then I am the one that is responsible for how I choose to express myself in relationship to the content of that post. It is not the person that posted it that is responsible for how I have chosen to feel/be/react/interact/express myself in relationship to what had been posted. I am the one that is responsible for my own thoughts, actions and words, no one else, and within this responsibility I am free, and have the freedom to express Who I Am by my choice alone.
So, I believe 'FREEDOM WITH RESPONSIBILITY" to be a perfect principle of the forum community.
THANK YOU
With LOVE
WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS,
YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.
What is TRUTH ? . . . .THAT THE ONENESS IS ALL !!! What is JOY ? . . . . . .ALL THAT THE ONENESS IS !!! What is LOVE ? . . . . .THE ONENESS THAT IS ALL !!! What is LIFE ? . . . . . ALL THAT IS THE ONENESS !!! WHO AM I ? . . . . . . .THE ONENESS THAT ALL IS !!!
Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 6 Location: South Africa
Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 7:49 am Post subject:
i mentioned this to IAAIA last night, i have one guiding principle, respect. it's all encompassing, treat others like you want to be treated, you just can't go wrong, you retain the 'moral highground' as it were.
someone once told me 'you allow yourself to become offended', and it's something that i have taken to heart, sure i still get pissed off at times, but i ask myself, why is this making me so angry, and i treat it as an oppurtunity to learn something about people, but more importantly, about myself.
_________________ "Honey, I'm 71 years old, and I've done a lot of things, but I'm going to hell, I want to be with my friends."
'Sally', on the Jerry Springer Show, speaking to a Bible Thumper
One thing that always struck me was how 'personal' people take things. I think it's important to have discussions about serious matters and some times the emotions run high and blunt words are exchanged. If we our creating a community that everyone wishes to benefit from, we have to keep in mind that everything is a learning experience. It's important to NOT take things personal and look objectively at the situation. Leaving your ego aside will help us get to our points in our discussions without holding any grudge against the other.
perfect introduction, james! thanks for the "tee up"
i keep going back to the four agreements.
like the four elements, they are the basic building blocks of authentic dialogue, imo.
be impeccable with the word.
impeccable means without fault or error. when we speak from the "I", there can be no fault or error. we take responsibility for our thoughts, opinions, feelings and words.
when i make a post, i own it, and am willing to be accountable. i am able to account for my own stuff, my own biases, my own woundedness.
i am Aware. i will never give away my POWER again. i will never be a victim again.
freedom, responsibility and accountablitiy go hand in hand, imo.
don't take anything personally
when everyone is speaking from the "I", it's impossible to take what anyone else says personally. when everyone understands and practises this, the game is up. no more victims or perpetrators. no one gets bashed, no feelings are hurt.
whatever comes out of my mouth is about me, whatever comes out of your mouth is about you.
don't assume ANYTHING
when i ASSUME, i make an ASS out of U and ME.
words are limiting. most of communication is non-verbal. context is as important as content, if not more so. most conflict starts with mis-understanding, ime.
these bodyminds are limited communication devices. when i ask my brother or sister for more clarity, i honor them.
always do your best
sometimes the best i can do is stumble and fall. at least i took a step, which means i'm not stuck!
live is FOR-GIVING me a chance to choose love, where i once chose resistance, resentment and revenge!
the creative process is three steps: BE, DO, HAVE
the "five elements" is the being, the four agreements is the doing, and a safe forum is the having!
_________________ "at least i have chicken" -- leroy jenkins
G'day everyone
here are some more suggestions for the Infinite Love forum Principles/Declarations:
The past is gone and the future is not here, right now we are free of both. What's the rush, aye? What's a few minutes, hours, weeks, or fifty years in terms of Infinity?
This is one of the six principles of Wing Chun Kung Fu;
Avoid fighting force with force.
Another one;
All forms are temporary but their source is eternal. In other words, All is One... appearances and differing modes of expression remind us of our individuality within Infinity. Everything is created from Love... Love creates infinitely.
The terms positive and negative are relative and subjective. Who decides that a situation or event is one or the other?
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like the four elements, they are the basic building blocks of authentic dialogue, imo.
be impeccable with the word.
impeccable means without fault or error. when we speak from the "I", there can be no fault or error. we take responsibility for our thoughts, opinions, feelings and words.
when i make a post, i own it, and am willing to be accountable. i am able to account for my own stuff, my own biases, my own woundedness.
i am Aware. i will never give away my POWER again. i will never be a victim again.
freedom, responsibility and accountablitiy go hand in hand, imo.
LOVE & GRATITUDE
G'day tru3, in regards to the bit above... By saying you are wounded you are actually declaring that you are a victim. Ummm... just wanted to say that to you, that's all.
Cheers,
Pat.
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