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marpat



Joined: 29 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: So what do you not agree with marpat..... Reply with quote

Optimus pigpot wrote:
Mike Hunt wrote:
Optimus pigpot wrote:
marpat wrote:
brians201 wrote:
At the risk of being contensious here ............. I think DI is a major part of us all being here discussing a lot of this stuff ... he has brought a myriad of threads together from all parts of the past present and future worlds .. and having said that ....... been instrumental in showing their connectivity and I am always amazed that just beacause he is not afraid to tak in common or garden terms his work is sometimes not recognised. He never said he was the SOURCE .......... all he is doing is presenting facts ....... take it or leve them!. For my money he is THE most consistent and MAJOR source we have out there for having the balls to WALK AROUND THE WORLD AND SAY IT .......... and his family has suffered for it.

I will be in Brixton ................ Hope to see y'all there ..............

When the power of love overcomes the love of power then the world will know peace ......... Jimi Hendrix


He is presenting the facts? no, he is presenting his intepretation of the facts. I read his books openly but have recently looked at them in a critical light and there are a lot of errors and inaccuracies. I highlighted some on his forum but people don't want to hear about him being wrong in there.

A lot of people go around the world stating what they believe even at the cost of their family. There is a chritian family in the US who publicly parade at military funerals to shout abuse about the dead soldiers. They believe they are right and they suffer for it, but it is only their own belief, not a universal fact. Putting your family through ordeals because of your beliefs does not make those beliefs any more accurate or true.

When you claim he shows connectivity between things this does not make them factual. A lot of his so called jigsaw puzzle is based on very loose information. The fact that a lot of it is very vague and based on the testimony of some dubious characters means that it can be massaged to fit his plan of the world. Cults have been doing this sort of thing for ages.

I will be honest here. I used to think he might be onto something until I went into his forum. I encountered a lot of nasty, narrow minded people who will not accept any standard explanation for things but are happy to go long with some really ridiculous crap as long as it is against the system. It got to the point to where I was thinking that if these are the sort of minds his work breeds then I want no part of it. Just look at the amount of abuse that goes on in there in the name of freedom of speech. Hs forum should be classed as an opposame as the idea is to discuss things freely but in truth if you go there with your own ideas you get harrassed.


I would like to see what it is specifically you've read that Icke has written that you disagree with, book by book point by point.

I agree that i've met some very biased people on there but they do not represent Icke, his message or anyone else's viewpoint. They like here have stance on various issues and they are either correct or incorrect.

Op.




A 5 year old could take that steaming pile of shit apart.
So as I said, front up and take the time to tell me what it is you disagree with but please don't make generic answers that have no basis. Otherwise you are seen to be a twat that is just into name calling and disinformation. If you wish to make a valid point then answer with answers. Or maybe you can't, I don't know, but either way let's see EXACTLY what you have to say.


I am just not interested in his work anymore to put myself through that effort and I am surely not going to do it for your benefit. What is clear to me though is that you are one of his cult conditioned posse. You expect me to trawl through loads of books highlighting the errors and for what? you will believe what you want to believe anyway. I personally am not interested in what he has to say now and think he is just another cult leader. I have far more interesting books that are worth spending the time and effort on to understand.

Explain how I am a twat then? does not David name call and accuse with no EVIDENCE. How many people does he accuse of being paedophiles without any proof. Oh yes, forgot about Cathy there. How bad of me to think she may be a LIAR. Why doesn't David report such people to the police and give all of his evidence and name his witnesses. Oh yes, they will just cover it up so why bother, how convenient. Maybe David is just gullible, thinking that these people with horror stories would not be so wretched as to invent the stories with the view to making cash, or being actually unstable.

As for disinformation, that has been used to many times as an excuse to ignore what people say. Whenever people try to crticise Davids work it is always the disinfo answer. It is exactly the same method used by religious fundamentalists, to attack and condemn anything that does not fit in with the belief system.

Ickism is another form of mental brainwashing. A simple test would be this: make two accounts on his forum. With one post information that is a little sceptical and not what people want to hear, then with the other account blindly support all of his theories. You will get a good idea of what sort of people use that forum.

So what is your opinion of David hanging ten with Credo? I wonder if he makes any money out of the association with this wealthy westerner, giving him all of that information for his books. Maybe David could meet the reptilians directly when the Zulu's do some animal sacrifice.

A lot of the stuff in Davids books is not even original thinking. He has used material from many sources to create an image of the world that he wants to see. If the 'gods', the annunaki have been in control of the world for thousands of years and have had all sorts of high tech stuff in early history (enough to mess with genes no doubt) then why has it taken until the past hundred years for technology to start really lifting off? why did they not use chipping back then to control people, or transmit radio waves that have the effect of suppressing the mind? why did they not just appear in their true form and make people their slaves? by now it would have been accepted as natural and they could have used advanced knowledge to prevent the slaves rebelling, or maybe they could have just made people incapable of resistance.

You can think I am a twat if you like, I really don't care about you opinion. If having my own opinion makes me one then I can live with that. It is far better to be an sceptical twat than a mind controlled, cult follwing sheep.
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Optimus pigpot



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:43 am    Post subject: Re: So what do you not agree with marpat..... Reply with quote

Sorry marpat and all the rest,


You have all produced FUCK ALL evidence against Icke. I'm sorry about your misdirection but not one of you have provided any case. So you have now filled in the missing gaps. No evidence, no proof. Carry on!!!!!! Your short term goals will betray your long term needs.......
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marpat



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: So what do you not agree with marpat..... Reply with quote

And Icke has produced no evidence of what he claims. Has he any pics of reptilians? I am sure he must be grateful for people like you who are willing to defend his honour even though he can only drop hints at what he THINKS is really going on. He needs people like you to keep the money coming in.

Well thank you for proving my earlier point that you are mind controlled by Davids conspiracy theories. You claim people in here are misdirected, which means that you are not. Once again the mind controlled robot tells us we are wrong and that Davids work is beyond reproach. BBBbaaaaahhhhh. Would you mind if I sheer some wool off you to make a jumper?
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strider



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: So what do you not agree with marpat..... Reply with quote

Optimus pigpot wrote:


Sorry marpat and all the rest,


You have all produced FUCK ALL evidence against Icke. I'm sorry about your misdirection but not one of you have provided any case. So you have now filled in the missing gaps. No evidence, no proof. Carry on!!!!!! Your short term goals will betray your long term needs.......


Unless you hadn't noticed, this site is not called www.anti-davidicke-campaign.com

There are hundreds upon hundreds of researchers out there all with a differing view, testimonies and evidence who have documented their findings and published them.

David Icke, believe it or not, is not the only one to have written books on world conspiracy and the nature of reality.

Time to grow up OP and look for the information inside of your self, and not whilst blowing smoke up Icke's arse..

Good day.. Cool
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Mike Hunt
John Drake / Adam Weishaupt


Joined: 19 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Re: So what do you not agree with marpat..... Reply with quote

Optimus pigpot wrote:


Sorry marpat and all the rest,


You have all produced FUCK ALL evidence against Icke. I'm sorry about your misdirection but not one of you have provided any case. So you have now filled in the missing gaps. No evidence, no proof. Carry on!!!!!! Your short term goals will betray your long term needs.......


You want evidence icke talks shit lol here you go:

Quote:
Icke, David In March 1991, a former U.K. soccer star, spokesperson for the Green party, and broadcaster named David Icke called a press conference in London to announce a number of upcoming world-shaking events revealed to him personally, he said, by Socrates, “the Godhead,” Jesus Christ, and various other spirits. They had chosen him, he said, to be the “channel for the Christ spirit.” The press paid close attention and published lengthy interviews with Mr. Icke.
Mr. Icke declared that “disruptive thought vibrations” originating with the Sicilian Mafia and the Tiananmen Square massacre in China had combined to set in motion a cataclysm that would first be evidenced when Mount Rainier in the United States would explode. No date was given. This would be followed, he said, by the complete disappearance of New Zealand, the collapse of the Channel Tunnel, the fall of Naples Cathedral, and an unspecified failure of the Texas oil fields.
These events would be brought about by the “archangel Ak-Taurus,” who, he said, had previously managed to thwart an attempt by the citizens of Atlantis to avoid the submersion of that civilization. The Atlanteans, said Mr. Icke, had been urged to tune in to the “power point” at Stonehenge, but they did not heed the warning and were thus destroyed. He also revealed that both King Arthur and Merlin, along with the archangels, have now turned off the power at Stonehenge so that Ak-Taurus cannot use it against mankind. What a relief!
By Christmas 1991, Mr. Icke predicted, Cuba, Greece, the Isle of Arran, the cliffs of Kent, and Teeside would be hit by a great earthquake (8.0 on the Richter scale) that would submerge them.
Mr. Icke has since stated that at the time he made these predictions he knew they were crazy. I have no disagreement with that evaluation.


Sorry pig but Cuba, Greece, the Isle of Arran, the cliffs of Kent, and Teeside are all still there mate.
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paganus



Joined: 01 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: So what do you not agree with marpat..... Reply with quote

i reiterate,burden of proof is on the one making the claim.PROVE he's right
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goldy



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:06 pm    Post subject: Re: So what do you not agree with marpat..... Reply with quote

strider wrote:
Optimus pigpot wrote:


Sorry marpat and all the rest,


You have all produced FUCK ALL evidence against Icke. I'm sorry about your misdirection but not one of you have provided any case. So you have now filled in the missing gaps. No evidence, no proof. Carry on!!!!!! Your short term goals will betray your long term needs.......


Unless you hadn't noticed, this site is not called www.anti-davidicke-campaign.com

There are hundreds upon hundreds of researchers out there all with a differing view, testimonies and evidence who have documented their findings and published them.

David Icke, believe it or not, is not the only one to have written books on world conspiracy and the nature of reality.

Time to grow up OP and look for the information inside of your self, and not whilst blowing smoke up Icke's arse..

Good day.. Cool


Like you used to do? Hey strider!
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cloudgazer
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Re: So what do you not agree with marpat..... Reply with quote

marpat wrote:

You can think I am a twat if you like, I really don't care about you opinion. If having my own opinion makes me one then I can live with that. It is far better to be an sceptical twat than a mind controlled, cult follwing sheep.


I'm pretty sure OP was calling, Mike hunt a twat

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, no one's beliefs are better than anyone elses. We are free to believe whatever we want. It's our choice, and that's fine. Anytime you tell someone, "you HAVE to believe this, or you HAVE to believe that,!", you are just trying to restrict their beliefs which is not possible, unless they allow it. which again makes it free, because they chose to believe that.

LOl you can see how i've been influenced by IAAIA's philosophy in a way, and also postmodernity

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: So what do you not agree with marpat..... Reply with quote

goldy wrote:
strider wrote:
Optimus pigpot wrote:


Sorry marpat and all the rest,


You have all produced FUCK ALL evidence against Icke. I'm sorry about your misdirection but not one of you have provided any case. So you have now filled in the missing gaps. No evidence, no proof. Carry on!!!!!! Your short term goals will betray your long term needs.......


Unless you hadn't noticed, this site is not called www.anti-davidicke-campaign.com

There are hundreds upon hundreds of researchers out there all with a differing view, testimonies and evidence who have documented their findings and published them.

David Icke, believe it or not, is not the only one to have written books on world conspiracy and the nature of reality.

Time to grow up OP and look for the information inside of your self, and not whilst blowing smoke up Icke's arse..

Good day.. Cool


Like you used to do? Hey strider!


Erm like I used to do what?
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